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I've added links back to the main pages on every themes page and we should probably make sure we do that for all subsequent pages. Also, we need to make sure that the major themes on this page are ones that occur in multiple stories/works and not just for one work if we're trying to do more of an overview thing. lrose 12:25, 30 April 2009 (PDT)

Nice setup! Question: what do you see as the difference between Awareness and Self-Consciousness? Both of these are important throughout Wallace's works, I think. But do they overlap significantly so that it would make more sense to combine the two under just the umbrella of one, or are they distinct enough to warrant two different theme categories? Tammy 06:09, 1 May 2009 (PDT)

Hmmm. That's a very good question. I feel like appearance might be more of an appearance vs. reality type of theme, whereas self-consciousness is more of a self-perception. But, as people continue to make their pages for each work, maybe we can see if one gets used more than the other and just combine the two...? lrose 10:12, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

Hey, I edited some stuff. I added a motifs section just because it seemed like some of the items on the theme list were more like motifs (e.g. light, windows, and mirrors). They are elements or images that recur in various texts, right? (as opposed to a larger and more fundamental idea that a theme might be...) Also, do you think that color also qualifies as a motif? I can't see how it could be a theme. I also thought it was a good idea to explain the reason behind theme pages...I wrote our reason, but I guess right now, for all I know, it's more like my reason. If you guys agree and like it, great! If you disagree or dislike it, then I suppose I'll remove or edit it, so that it becomes representative of our class' consensus. Tammy 10:14, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

hey, i think it would be good to either explain the thermos woman here or link to her --emrad 10:17, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

oooh. a link sounds good. is there already an article written about her? Tammy 10:18, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

i don't think there is one... also, it seems like the whole part about human connection should be in its own theme page, not in the part explaining themes. i understand you're giving an example, but i think you could just says something like many of the themes listed above come up in his first novel and many stories thereafter. but i think what you're saying about human connection is important- maybe you could move it up alongside a link to a new themes page on "human connection" or something like that... and I don't think we should say we because it's supposed to be more neutral. what do you think? --emrad 10:22, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

Hey emrad, I'm not sure if you were the one who changed the formatting, but in any case, I'm fine with the way it is now. I don't mind having the "we" there, just because I don't see the harm in having it there; it might remind our future readers that real-life students created this as a class project, and that we put did put our thoughts and feelings into this :) Tammy 19:36, 6 May 2009 (PDT)

I don't think using "we" is appropriate, regardless of the humanity it may suggest. It doesn't happen on Wikipedia pages, and we are essentially creating a series of Wikipedia pages. --Cgf02007 19:45, 6 May 2009 (PDT)

I disagree with the fact that we need to emulate the style of wikipedia pages. Just because we're making a "wiki" doesn't mean we need to model ourselves precisely after the impersonality of wikipedia pages. Tammy 19:49, 6 May 2009 (PDT)